King Soopers Meeting Draws Angry Crowd

09/10/2014  |  by

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Yasmin Bijan-Wilson makes her point to Forest City’s Jim Chrisman that Forest City is reneging on the promise of a walkable town center that Eastbridge residents got when they bought their homes.

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This concept plan of the King Soopers shows the pedestrian walkway in front and tables outside. Final architecture has not yet been determined.

Approximately 100 people gathered at Sam Gary library on September 9 to hear from King Soopers and Evergreen Development about the plans for Eastbridge. However, many were there not to look at plans but to express their anger that the plans did not address their concerns.

The biggest issues were: the parking lot is too big and people think it looks like a suburban big box store; there was strong opposition to a gas station in a residential area; and safe pedestrian access will be a problem given the speed of traffic.

Forest City clarified the status of the development. They have signed a contract to sell the west retail portion and plaza to Evergreen Development. They have a letter of intent from King Soopers but no signed contract at this time. King Soopers added they did not exercise their right of refusal—no one else made an offer. They are choosing to build at Eastbridge.

The plans presented at this meeting were not final and no final plan has been submitted to the Stapleton Design Review Committee (SDRC), which has ultimate authority to approve plans for all development at Stapleton. David Netz, chair of the Zoning and Planning committee (ZAP), said ZAP will submit a report to the SDRC with the concerns raised at this meeting. He added that the land is zoned for the intended uses so the city can’t say no to this use.

The presentation

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Joel Starbuck from King Soopers describes updates to the plan that address some of the concerns they’re heard from the community.

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Site plan shows pedestrian access corridors, landscape and other features planned for Eastbridge.

Joel Starbuck of King Soopers described their ideas to address community concerns: They made the walkway across the front wider than normal as a buffer to cars and more pedestrian friendly. They created an outdoor seating area that adjoins an indoor seating area, with coffee and a deli nearby. They placed trees along a north-south walkway near where Geneva Court would have been. They created a wider pedestrian area along Havana. There will be landscaping all the way around the perimeter of the store and parking lot. The store will have energy efficiencies such as skylights and lights in coolers and displays that automatically go on and off based on the presence of shoppers.

Kelli McGannon, King Soopers spokesperson, said the store is 55,000 square feet, and they have built very few under 65,000 in the last 10 years. Their big suburban stores are 120,000 square feet. She explained that to have the requested amenities such as prepared food, organic food and a cheese bar, they need the size they’re building.

Tyler Carlson, representing Evergreen Development, followed King Soopers presentation with a description of the retail at the west end. The plans on display showed buildings that back up to the street and open to a plaza between the two buildings. Carlson clarified that the buildings will have 360 degree architecture so the street view won’t look like the backs of stores, but stores will just open to the plaza. He expects about eight tenants in 22-23,000 square feet and hopes for four restaurants.

For a more detailed description of the retail development read this article on the August ZAP meeting.

The parking lot

A resident, after hearing the presentations, said, “Tyler, I would like to tell you that I want you to have more land.

“King Soopers, what I want to tell you is your parking lot is too big. If you can get your parking lot into a space that is more reasonable, 45% of the land is what is listed in the Stapleton design guidelines, we can talk. We don’t want as much parking lot. Period.”

Carlson responded,  “I know it sounds blasphemous in this room, but I’m actually concerned that because of the amount of restaurant space we’re targeting that we’re going to be underparked, at least on my end. Restaurants tend to be 10 per thousand and I have about half that much. Look at Westword today. The three worst places in Denver are the Trader Joe’s, Whole Foods and Sprouts parking lots because they’re all underparked.”

Forest City’s Jim Chrisman said they had removed some parking to make it more pedestrian friendly. “We took 30 feet out. We took 20 feet of that and put it in front of the store to make it more pedestrian friendly. The other 10 was put in the back of the store to move it off Havana and make it a little more friendly as well.”

The current plan has 227 parking spaces for King Soopers and 114 for the retail.

But the changes didn’t meet the expectations of many, as expressed by this attendee, “What we object to is you’re trying to build a box store with a giant parking lot in what is supposed to be zoned as a town center. If you guys can find a way to work with us to change from that, we’re going to be happy and embrace your store. If you don’t, if this is what’s going to be built I can guarantee you’re going to have people boycotting you, you’re going to have people raising issues and talking to the media and upset. There are things you can do but so far everything I’ve heard today is you giving us lip service.”

The gas station

Gas station objections were as strong as parking lot objections. SUN board member Amanda Allshouse said, to a round of applause, “I firmly believe it’s not in the best interest of the community to have a gas station.” She cited statistics from the recent SUN survey of 1,500 residents that 48% do not want a gas station, 24% have no preference, and 28% are in favor of a gas station. Allshouse said she will be speaking in front of the Environmental Health board to recommend that gas stations be at least 100 meters from residences.

Another resident said, “I would love to shop at your store, but I will not do it if you build a gas station.”

Starbuck commented, “Fuel centers have come a long way.” But when asked about living next to one, he said, “Do I want one across from my house? No.” The plan for the gas station east of the grocery store has seven fuel pumps to accommodate 14 vehicles.

Other issues

A question was raised about safe access for pedestrians to get to the grocery store and retail. Tyler Carlson agreed that is a concern and said Evergreen will lobby the city traffic engineers. As a Stapleton dad of four kids, he added, “We need that connection to be easy. I want my kids to be able to walk there in a pedestrian crossing.” The suggested crossing place would be at the north-south sidewalk through the parking lot (approximately where Geneva Court would be).

One person asked about the problem of trucks driving through the neighborhood.  Starbuck said trucks will come in on Havana, unload and head east and back out Havana so they will have minimal impact on the neighborhood. He added that King Soopers has worked with neighbors to limit the hours that trucks can unload to minimize noise in the night.

One attendee showed a chart of crime in the Eastbridge neighborhood and expressed concern than a 24-hour store could increase that problem. Starbuck said the store will not necessarily be open 24 hours and King Soopers would solicit community input on hours.

A number of attendees were angry they were not getting the town center they’d been promised when they purchased their homes, as expressed by Yasmin Bijan-Wilson. “You sold all these people top dollar real estate with the idea of a town center. You’re reneging on a promise. It’s bait and switch,” she told Chrisman. “Now you need to put in what the community was promised. People were charged extra for their lots to be across from a walkable town center. This is what was sold to a community and we spent collectively millions of dollars, so it feels like Main St versus Wall Street.”

On a more optimistic note

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Interior photos showing how the Eastbridge King Soopers might look inside.

Eastbridge resident Buddy Poppitt made the final comment of the meeting. “I have been looking at a vacant lot for eight years. That’s not a town center either. I want to walk to a restaurant. I want to, instead of driving to Quebec, go to a grocery store. I would love that. A fuel center? I don’t think it belongs here. I’ve been an architect for 20 years. This is not new urbanism. Neither is a big grass lot. “What they’re saying is true. We need the anchor of some type. I agree I would like to see a smaller store. Because we have (a big) one on Quebec we don’t need the same store. (But) we need the parking to have restaurants. We need the King Soopers to get the Evergreen Development, which I can’t wait to have happen. So everyone needs to tone it down a little bit. Not everybody knows all the details about the business…and just listen a little bit. And I think and I hope after this meeting, between SUN and Forest City and these guys I have faith that all these guys are going to come up with a good solution.”

King Soopers spokesperson McGannon added, “We’re not here to alienate you, we’re here to work with you.”

 

 

8 Comments

  1. Michael

    Per the Westword comment in the story, the #3 least favorite – parking at any Denver Whole Foods, Trader Joe’s or Sprouts: http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2014/09/denver_worst_places.php?page=4

    Here’s the truth of the town center. The only people that will walk are the folks immediately nearby, which will not be enough to sustain much of anything. The majority will drive from the rest of Stapleton or nearby neighborhoods, and will require someplace to park their car – either the lot, or the street in front of your house.

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  2. Thomas

    Where was the SUN outrage about the 7-11 gas station nearing completion in Northfield? Has the gas station simply become an easy way to fight King Soopers because it is an important part of their business plan?

    Living in close proximity to MLK, an arterial road expected to carry 30,000 vehicles a day once connected to Aurora Parkway at CU Med Center, is what will be detrimental to your safety, health and property values–not a King Soopers gas station

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  3. Nells

    Lets get real. The opposition to a gas station is a backdoor way to fight King Soopers. Where was the orchestrated SUN crowd opposition to the 7-11 now built in Northfield? It couldn’t have more than a 50-ft separation from the nearby residences. What else should are you going to build on an odd shape parcel of land surrounded by one-way streets and an arterial road designed for 30,000 cars a day? Your property values will be way more impacted lon-term by the eventual trffic on MLK.

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  4. Anne

    I have sympathy for the gas station issue and I wish that the focus would turn to that. I think it is unreasonable to expect a store to design parking on the idea that people will mostly walk or bike to the grocery store. I love the idea, but if I’m honest, I rarely walk to the store and I know I’m not alone. I think by trying to dictate the exact design, trying to dictate parking lots that King Sooper’s research indicates won’t work and trying to complain about wanting stores that don’t want to be here because they don’t think it will be profitable we are hard to take seriously. I think if the focus were on the gas station more people both in and outside of Stapleton would have sympathy and be willing to support the cause. Don’t mean to offend anyone, just my 2 cents.

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  5. Hank Conaway

    I would much prefer what is proposed to an open field of weeds. A small grocery is not what I want( which seems to be ok since not one small grocery wants to build). If a King Soopers builds I would like enough parking spaces. I would prefer no gas station, but that is hardly a deal breaker. I will support what is proposed and will walk through any protesters happily.

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    • Ashley W.

      What a nice thing it must be, to not have to worry about a gas station being built a mere 80 feet from where your family lives and plays. I do have to worry about it – the health risks, the traffic safety, the smells, the effect on our property values and ability to sell a house so close to a fuel center. So, for my family and my neighbors, it is a deal breaker. I wish I had the luxury to not give a hoot. And if I did, if it weren’t being built in my front yard, I would advocate for those it was impacting.

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    • Chuck Montera

      I completely agree with you Hank. What most Stapleton residents forget the 15,000 children in Stapleton will be driving a car in the next few years. There is a definite need for community-based gas stations. It will no longer be just mom and dad, but the kids too.

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      • Ben M

        I’m pretty sure our teenage kids will be capable of driving the quarter-mile to the 7-11 on Havana, or to one of the THREE stations within a half-mile on Colfax. There is absolutely no reason for gas stations to be housed in the center of residential neighborhoods, especially right across from homes and childcare facilities. You and your kids may not be immediately impacted by the placement of this gas station, but try to think how you might react if it were planned for the space across from your house. Sometimes issues of health and neighborhood culture really should trump convenience.

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